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Lawyer Launcher - Behind the Bar
Law school teaches you the law. This podcast teaches you how to succeed inside a law firm.
Lawyer Launcher – Behind the Bar is for law students and newly called lawyers who want to thrive and build confidence when they start practice. Hosted by Susan Van Dyke, a trusted advisor to law firms and a guide for new lawyers navigating their first year, this show offers an insider perspective from the other side of the hiring table.
With over 30 years of experience working with law firms and their leadership teams, Susan knows exactly what firms expect from new hires—and what they rarely explain. This podcast fills that gap, with practical advice, candid conversations, and tools to help you build confidence, credibility, and competence from day one.
New episodes drop every two weeks. Because landing the job is just the beginning.
Lawyer Launcher - Behind the Bar
Retired Managing Partner Tells the Truth About Starting in Law with Murray Gottheil
Behind the Bar – Lawyer Launcher
Real advice from real experience — the things law school never told you.
In this episode, Susan sits down with retired business lawyer and former managing partner Murray Gottheil, known for his frank, funny, and refreshingly honest insights about the legal profession. From the “safety of retirement,” Murray shares the truths he wishes he’d known earlier — and the hard lessons he believes every law student, summer student, and new associate needs to hear before starting in a law firm.
Together, Susan and Murray break down:
The biggest mistakes new lawyers make
- Why confidence and self-awareness matter more than you think
- How introverts (and extroverts!) can set themselves up to succeed
- What “ownership mentality” really looks like — and why partners value it
- How to ask better questions without driving your supervising lawyer crazy
The hard truths about starting your legal career
- You know far less than you think after graduation — and that’s normal
- Why legal success isn’t about hard work alone
- The reality of learning outside billable time
- How culture varies between firms, offices, and practice groups
- Why defining your own version of success is essential for long-term health
Murray also shares stories from decades in practice — from articling in the 80s, to hiring students, to mentoring young lawyers — with practical, actionable advice to help you thrive, not just survive.
If you’re preparing for summering, articling, or your first year of practice, this episode will give you the insight (and perspective) you won't find in textbooks.
Listen now and start building the leadership habits your future self will thank you for.
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Episode notes:
Law & Disorder Inc: https://www.murraygottheil.com/
Murray Gottheil LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/murray-gottheil-58787b1/